Single mom refuses to let her 4-year-old daughter's friend play at her house, even though the friend's mom has let her daughter play at her house: 'My kid isn’t allowed over there because the mom doesn’t want to clean up the mess.'

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  • I told my neighbor that if my kid can’t play at her house, her kid can’t play at ours. Am I wrong?

    Some context: Our girls are 4, born 5 days apart. They live 3 doors down (townhouse complex).
  • White concrete building beside road during daytime
  • For the last couple months, and especially the last couple weeks, her daughter has been coming to ours to play with my daughter.
  • No problem. However, whenever they leave ours to go there, they're always sent back within 5 minutes.
  • She's a single mum, but her mum and a family friend help look after her kid when she's at work.
  • They have both told me that my kid isn't allowed over there because mum 'doesn't want to clean up the mess'.
  • Lego blocks on brown wooden table
  • Last night her kid came over again and instead of coming to get her own kid, she's texted me and said to send her home.
  • This happens more frequently than it should. I told her that while I'm okay with her kid at ours, this needs to be an equal load share.
  • She said that she 'wished I would've spoken to her' (I tried) and that she's a single mum and doesn't have any help.
  • My partner and I are together, yes, but we are pretty much in the same boat as her.
  • We don't have help. Our closest relative is a 10 hour drive away. I told her that her kid isn't allowed at ours if mine isn't allowed at hers.
  • WholeFuzzy5152 NTA, good enough for me but not for thee in a nutshell. But the kids shouldn't have to not get to be friends or play together just because she wants to be r de. I feel like there isn't a perfect answer for this one OP Edit I came home to an award (thank you) and great discussion about this to think about for my own kids in the future. I hope you and your child stay safe and find a way to go through this
  • AfricanHornet Original Poster's Reply We both agreed that we don't want this to affect the children but there's still no solution on her end. She said they can 'play outside on the trampoline'
  • silent_reader2024 Who supervises? Because at 4 years old there are too many things that can go wrong on a trampoline, from sprain to (rarely) spinal injuries. Between 2009 and 2018 there were 800,000 trampoline injuries with 90% of them being children under 16 years of age. These statistics are from the Mayo Clinic. Knowing this I would never leave 4 year olds unattended with a trampoline.
  • AfricanHornet Original Poster's Reply No one really. I've gone by before (before this started happening) to grab my daughter and she couldn't hear me knocking at the door cause she had her headphones in listening to music.
  • New_Part91 I would NEVER want my 4 yo at a neighbors home unless i knew that neighbor very well and had been inside her home. Even then, i doubt i would allow it. You are privileged to have a home where other children are welcome.
  • AfricanHornet Original Poster's Reply I've known her for 4+ years and been inside many times. I used to do some work at her place, sometimes for cash, sometimes as a favour.
  • BlueMoonTone Sounds like she's using the mess as an excuse to get some free time. I wouldn't trust her to be responsible in looking after your child if she's pushing 4 year olds outside to play on the trampoline.
  • AfricanHornet Original Poster's Reply This is a very good point. I'll chat w my fiancé about this.
  • MetalliCoz Ntah I have a 10-year-old and twin five-year-olds, so I am very well aware of how messy it is. Have you seen her house? Perhaps it's so messy that she's embarrassed. My wife won't let me have people over if the house isn't in great shape. Seems like a simple solution would be if the kids go to her house, you come over and pick up your kid and when you pick them up, you help clean up. Working with the kids, that will teach them better responsibility and how to keep things clean, you ca
  • AfricanHornet Original Poster's Reply I've seen her house plenty of times. It is always much cleaner than ours. I agree with you. We've been working on the 'you made the mess you clean it up' with both of them. It's a slow process.
  • Novel-Early NTA! The kids will make more or less the same amount of mess wherever they are but it seems that she's absolutely fine with you clearing up yet tis too much for her to! Cheeky sod!!!
  • AfricanHornet Original Poster's Reply Exactly this. We don't mind cleaning up as we know the kids enjoy the company and we believe in play-based learning. But it needs. to go both ways, I'm not a babysitter.
  • Spirited_Heron_9049 Did I read this correctly that she texted for you send her 4yr old home? Does she expect you to walk her over? Or is the 4 YR OLD walking home alone? I don't care if it's 3 doors or 3 blocks..... FOUR is too young to walk home alone! I'd let the kid come over if only to give them a sense of normal home life. I wouldn't let the walk home alone.... Single mom can walk the 3 doors downtown get the kid. That said, you're NTAH for not letting the kid come over until it's a fair sh
  • AfricanHornet Original Poster's Reply Yes, you read that correctly. We live maybe 10 metres apart.
  • Beginning_Arm_5048 nta. healthy relationships between neighbors with kids are built on reciprocity. the pattern of her child playing at your place for hours while yours is kicked out after 5 minutes isn't just a single mom struggle it's a lack of respect for your time and space. her argument that she doesn't want to clean up the mess simply means she's perfectly happy letting that mess happen in your home instead of hers
  • Internal_Praline_658 Man, you're NTA BUT if you can find it in your heart to let her come over you might make a huge difference in that kid's life. I was the neighbor kid and I cannot tell you the relief and respite I felt at those houses. Lots of ppl didn't want me to come over.
  • Responsible_Side8131 As your kids get older you're going to learn that it's better to have all the kids at your own house. All the better to keep an eye on things. A parent that doesn't want you kid at their house has a reason. Maybe the house is a hoarding situation, maybe there's a creepy uncle living in the basement, maybe Mom is trying to hide something like the fact that she's on dr s or drink. This definitely sounds like a situation where I would be encouraging the kids to stay at my house

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